Black rock-hers united and chatted about the past, present and future of SATE: a groundbreaking musician in Toronto, Canada!



NK: Nicole Kali is here with our 27th guest: SATE!

SATE: Oooh, 27th! All right!

NK: Yes, 27th guest and it is SATE!

SATE: All right!

NK: A Toronto songwriter, vocalist and a rock-her on a beautiful path. How are you, sis?

SATE: I am blessed! How are you?

NK: I feel the same way, honestly. I feel blessed, I feel progressive and it's good to have you here.

SATE: Yeah, same.

NK: It's surreal to like, chat and hold this space as Black Rockers United. I realize as you've been going through this pandemic, you know, like this is your time to shine! I'm really proud of you.

SATE: Thank you! Thank you so much.

NK: Yes! Has your perspective, has your creativity grown for you at this time where you have more solitude and space?

SATE: Since the release of the album [The Fool], it's all really starting to, to sink in: just all of the emotional and spiritual work that I have been processing—just me alone been processing, much less the world and processing the world!

Artwork: Salome Bey (SATE), composite image (Nicole Kali)

You know, last year my mother transitioned. And this year, I went back into The Fool. I had started it in January of 2018, started recording and put it on hold...ummm, released 'Dirty Little Lie' and the video. And decided that I wanted to go back in, and I just didn't know where.

And then when my mom transitioned, it was like 'It's time to go back in'. So I went back in in 2021—like, THIS year, top of this year!

And [I] just kind of like tore it down and built it back up. And I'm just, it's just kind of starting to process...ALL of that. You know? It's a lot.

NK: It's a lot. It's very expansive. It's a lot to be immersed in and it's a lot to deal with. You know in addition to everything else.

SATE: Yeah...yeah.

NK: But it's therapeutic too, isn't it?

SATE: Absolutely, I mean music is, is a healing salve. You know, umm, creativity is healing. That' be able to transmute, we're magicians! You know?

NK: Yes, absolutely, it's—it's musical alchemy [laughs]!

SATE: Yes! Absolutely.

NK: Yeah, so we gotta mention for all the viewers out there, SATE's second album that they just mentioned, The Fool just debuted last week (November 4th)!

SATE: Yes!

NK: And there's an accompanying short film (you can watch here), and a tarot deck! So could...

SATE: Yes! Yes, the tarot deck is coming! [Laughs]

NK: [Laughs too] Okay, cool!

SATE: [Laughs] Yeah. The film and the album are out for consumption, the tarot deck is coming.

NK: Beautiful! We'd love to hear all about these amazing projects.

SATE: Yeah. I, as I said, I told you about the short of the long process of making the album. The making of the film, umm, has always been a dream of mine to create: a cinematic expression around my music!

NK: Oooh, yeah!

SATE: know? And I feel like this is, this was the perfect pairing because I was very, very intentional about the interludes on the album to create a story, umm, a journey. It is about The Fool's journey—my Fool's journey.

So it only made sense to have a film and I got to work with an incredible director (Andrew Hamilton) who you know, he just...everything is magic! Everything is synchronous, everything is just, y'know, people plop into your life and you're like "Where have you been all my life?

Oh, you're supposed to be here right now." So we made this beautiful piece and after probably one conversation...actually, before the conversation, I looked at Andrew and was like "Yeah, this guy, we're going to be doing a lot together!"

And at the end of our conversation—when we hadn't even made the movie—he was like "I wanna do more with you!"

NK: Yes!

SATE: I was like "Yes! We will!" [Laughs]


NK: Hey, that's so cool! I love that.

SATE: Yeah, it was beautiful. It's beautiful, you know, between my producer Hill and Andrew, director of the film. It's so beautiful to be seen by people and understood, to be heard and just like, meeting and being able to...

NK: Yeah.

SATE: You know, 'cause I can't do everything. I would love to be able to do everything...maybe, maybe not, no.

NK: I totally feel you.

SATE: But it's really beautiful to have community, and really, really have people that see you. It's a real relationship: like people that I really want to go into, and like, really get dirty and really fight or have friction. And in all of that—feel safe.

NK: Mm-hmm!

SATE: Because just the safety of being able to fully unfurl my wings and be like "Can you see me? Oh, you see me! I'm a weirdo. You're a weirdo too! Awesome, let's go!"

NK: [Laughs]

SATE: Yeah.

NK: That is so well-put, SATE. Absolutely. Yeah.

SATE: Yeah.


NK: So your artistic journey probably began as a young child because of your mother, right (?) Salome Bey who is a very well-known artist and multi-genre like yourself.

The Bey Siblings: Andy, Salome (middle), Geraldine (right)

SATE: Yes...yeah, it definitely, well, it started in the womb, right?

NK: In many ways, yes.

SATE: It started in the womb. In fact, she was onstage doing—I believe it was— Don't Bother Me, I Can't Cope in Washington, D.C. at the Ford's Theatre, eight-and-a-half months pregnant with me.

NK: Nice, nice!

SATE: So it started in the womb, right? And I think about three months after she had me, she was back in New York on Broadway, doing Your Arms Are Too Short to Box with God. So y'know. That's been my life. I...We follow our parents' examples, the people in front of us, you know.

My dad [was] a restauranteur, heavy into food and music so still creativity, that alchemy. You know, they're magicians. They were magicians and they encouraged that magic...that creativity in me, in all of us: in my sister, myself and my brother.

Y'know, we were always on stage with my mom. I was always in the kitchen watching my dad, or down at the restaurant.

NK: So cool.

SATE: So yeah, and I went to a school for the arts because I was like "If there are really schools like Fame, then I want to go."

NK: Awesome!

SATE: So I'm a theater kid, I'm a visual arts kid. I was playing tuba in school, you know, like I'm a band geek. I'm that kid.

NK: I love that. You were literally alternative in so many ways, but it all blends together. And it's a really cool, like you said, magical experience. That's a good word for it.

SATE: Yeah.

NK: So you were inspired by your parents, growing up, and as you grew up, were there any other particular artists that stood out to you and inspired you?

SATE: Oh my gosh. My dad, my parents had an incredible record collection. I would say it was my dad, I think, that did a lot of the collecting. I guess when we were in New York, I saw The Wiz on Broadway so I like, killed that record!


Like, I just listened to that record every single day so The Wiz with Stephanie Mills and Ted Ross, and DeeDee Bridgewater! You know like the OG's. Let me see...

I think it was later that I found Dreamgirls so it was like musical theater and Tchaikovsky because I was dancing, I was a ballet dancer. And then Funkadelic and Michael Jackson, and Prince.

Minnie Riperton, Chaka Khan & Rufus, Labelle, The Temptations, Earth, Wind & Fire. Stevie Wonder: big one. Big one. My family, my mom and her brother, her sister [Andy and the Bey Sisters], big, BIG influence on me.

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